European Champions League Final

Michael Kenrick

1 Posted
10/06/2023 at
19:24:33

If there is sufficient interest from the assembled parties, I can see if I can find the Keys to the Kingdom that is the ToffeeWeb Live Forum.

Don’t all shout at once!

Dale Self

2 Posted
10/06/2023 at
19:30:50

Yes please.

Jeff Armstrong

3 Posted
10/06/2023 at
19:39:28

Hope City lose, theyve bought and ruined the EPL (5 out of the last 6, FFS its worse than Scotland)

Forza Inter.

Guardiola trying to be smart again dropping Walker, hope it backfires.

Alan McGuffog

4 Posted
10/06/2023 at
19:46:12

Jeff, having lived and suffered through the Liverpool dominated years, roughly 76 to 89 I’m made up its anyone bar them

John Charles

5 Posted
10/06/2023 at
19:50:56

The shite would have won the league 3 or 4 times if not for city.

Dale Self

6 Posted
10/06/2023 at
19:52:58

Why are we talking abour also rans like them? Not even in next years UCL

Dale Self

7 Posted
10/06/2023 at
19:55:11

This pregame is almost ss bad as the wannabe black metal guitar army from the Hammers match

Will Mabon

8 Posted
10/06/2023 at
19:57:54

Predictions?

Will Mabon

9 Posted
10/06/2023 at
19:58:44

2-1 either way after E/T.

Michael Kenrick

10 Posted
10/06/2023 at
19:59:46

Jesus Christ… just fuck off with your Liverpool shite will you please.

This is absolutely not about them. Just for one fucking night can you not think about Liverpool FC? What is the matter with you???

Will Mabon

11 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:00:48

Michael, it’s turned a little cooler. If the LF won’t start, try half choke.

Dave Abrahams

12 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:02:49

Will (8) Predictions, I think Inter are being under estimated, they have been hard to score against in this competition, City are the firm favourites and hope they win but wouldnt be surprised if Inter win, possibly after extra time or even penalties, its just guess work.

Jeff Armstrong

13 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:03:29

Ah so its Josep, I thought Pep was short for Pepsi!

After the Wham singer or the EUFA sponsors.

Dale Self

14 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:03:34

I dont think Inters wingbacks will generate much. City 3-1

Michael Kenrick

15 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:03:55

Gonna be played at walking pace!

Will Mabon

16 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:04:24

Dave, it is.

Agree with the scoring, probably not so high.

Will Mabon

17 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:08:10

A miss.

Jeff Armstrong

18 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:08:28

The shape Dimarco is making to not giveaway a pen is compromising his defending there, rules ruining the art.

Will Mabon

19 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:12:52

Was watching outside – now rained off.

Michael Kenrick

20 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:17:22

Fantastic interception by Diaz, danger there…

Jeff Armstrong

21 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:19:42

Would love Citeh to lose after Guardiola tried to be a smart arse (again )by dropping Walker.

Paul Ferry

22 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:19:47

Inter Milan shirts all over Clerkenwell this evening. Quite a few of them nipping into the Italian church on Clerkenwell Road. Had a couple of glasses of white in the Italian deli/cafe next door. They are not very confident.

Jeff Armstrong

23 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:22:25

City there for the taking, their bottles gone here.

Paul Ferry

24 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:26:08

Inter really disrupting City’s game.

Michael Kenrick

25 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:27:52

Shoulda had that in the net!

Michael Kenrick

26 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:29:03

Tremendous move. Haaland off his game?

Jeff Armstrong

27 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:30:51

City fans virtually silent, can only hear Inter

James Flynn

28 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:31:50

Would like to see City take it.

Just a beautiful team to watch.

John Charles

29 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:32:33

Inter the better side.
Unlucky by Haaland couldnt have done much more

Paul Ferry

30 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:32:35

What would you expect Jeff. Foden coming on for KDB?

Will Mabon

31 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:32:47

Kevin DeBreakdown.

James Flynn

32 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:34:42

Jeff (21) – Walker’s out injured.

Jeff Armstrong

33 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:36:37

Come on Inter, beat the oil barons.

Will Mabon

34 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:36:43

Beetlejuice imminent.

Jeff Armstrong

35 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:40:02

Walker on the bench, dropped. Pep decent coach that he is ( never had no money to work with btw)always comes up with odd decisions in the big games, overthinks it,
hope he loses the big one again.

Paul Ferry

36 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:42:12

Why are so many refs bald. They must be disproportionately bald.

Jeff Armstrong

37 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:42:52

Come on Rom, score the winner.

Paul Ferry

38 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:44:49

Remember ’85 – ‘treble, treble, we wanna treble and we want one now’.

Jeff Armstrong

39 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:46:13

Paul, I think they wear bald wigs as a solidarity thing.😉

James Marshall

40 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:48:09

You leave us baldies out of this. Nice to see magic Marco Materazzi out tonight

Paul Ferry

41 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:48:09

The only baldy cob over ref I can think of from the 80sJeff was that Harrow schoolmaster fella. David, something, I think.

James Marshall

42 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:48:52

David Ellary. He was a twat

Jeff Armstrong

43 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:49:32

Matterazi in the stands there, Lukaku on the bench, Stones a gobshite, Dumfries almost joined us, theres only one team to support here.

Paul Ferry

44 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:50:05

Are you a ref James?

Paul Ferry

45 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:50:54

Cheers James and he was

James Marshall

46 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:51:07

I can barely referee my own household, let alone a football match

Jamie Crowley

47 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:51:09

Worst final ever. Bore fest. City look absolute shit. Completely playing east to west, not taking space, not getting ball forward, no urgency.

Just a shite game. Better second half surely!

Paul Ferry

48 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:54:00

Worst final ever JC! Have you seen Everton/Watford ’84 mate?

Dave Abrahams

49 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:57:00

James (42), James, Ellary was a twat and seven eighths!!

Jamie Crowley

50 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:59:21

Ferry – No!

Dude this final is just crap thus far! Shitty footy, like 2 half chances, City playing awful, it’s terrible.

Now, that doesn’t mean it won’t get better! Second half could be completely different. But that half was “take a nap and tell me the score when I wake” kinda shit!

Barry Hesketh

51 Posted
10/06/2023 at
20:59:44

I don’t like Italian clubs in the main, so I hope City win for two reasons, one it’ll stop the RS loving media beating them up because ‘until you’ve done it in Europe, you’re not a great team’ mantra and because it will shut the other lot up from claiming the same. City are a very good side, they’ve been off the pace tonight, but that’s as much to do with Inter’s hard work and organisation. As for the guy earlier going on about how the other lot would have won another four titles if it wasn’t for City, how many potential European Cups did Everton miss out on due to the behaviour of da bestest fans in da world?

Referee will decide the outcome of this game, unfortunately, a bad call or a daft penalty.

Jeff Armstrong

52 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:00:12

Paul, I remember a bald ref at Goodison v Chelsea (Roger Wilde?), booked the whole of the Chelsea wall for not being 10 yards, yellow, yellow,yellow, yellow, he was a twat too.

Rob Halligan

53 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:00:19

Paul Ferry…….Im surprised at you mate.

Paul Ferry

54 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:01:30

Ellary was a twat on and off the pitch. I had a mate at Cambridge who had him as his housemaster at school and he loved seeing the boys get caned.

Dale Self

55 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:02:51

City unlocked the 352 in a couple of interweaving ways early, cutting inside from just inside Inters half and beating the double team outside the D. KDB could not get several of those possessions inside the box. Most else came from outside to Inters preference.

At about 60 minutes it will get difficult for Inter to keep defensive discipline. I thought City would be up a goal but I still think they avoid the turnover in their half and get a goal.

Will Mabon

56 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:03:29

Paul, the bad one was ’86.

Paul Ferry

57 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:03:48

The day was one of my best ever Rob and I still watch the game every two years or so, but it wasn’t our best display mate. But I loved every minute of it and the night before in the Punch and Judy, Covent Garden, still there.

James Marshall

58 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:04:07

The most common scoreline in finals, from kids football to elite football is 1-0. The exciting ones are the exception not the rule

Jeff Armstrong

59 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:04:47

Everton v Watford was a fantastic final for obvious reasons, 14 trophyless years wiped out.
Balotelli working out great for BT sport tonight..riveting.

Jamie Crowley

60 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:05:12

OK here we go. Start playing footy. The whole “don’t make a mistake” or “the players are nervous” crap should be out the door now.

Entertain me FFS! 😂

Paul Ferry

61 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:06:21

’85 and ’86’ and fecking ’89. And that twat Lampard at Elland Rd.

Paul Ferry

62 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:07:13

Inter 1-0 AET James?

Jamie Crowley

63 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:07:40

Ya, but what about the epic game in 1806? 😜

Paul Ferry

64 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:08:32

Actually, I’ll take that back Rob, there were some pretty poor performances in 1983=84, especially the ’83 bit.

Paul Ferry

65 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:09:17

Trafalgar was 1805 JC.

Jamie Crowley

66 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:09:57

Hahaha Ferry.

James Marshall

67 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:10:17

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it was 1-0 to someone, Paul

Paul Ferry

68 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:10:18

Fourteen seems a little wait these days Jeff.

Jeff Armstrong

69 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:10:19

See also Baltimore-Milwaukee Runs

Jamie63, you sure know your ‘istory

Jamie Crowley

70 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:11:14

Jeff – pride myself on my easy 1800s knowledge m’man.

Jamie Crowley

71 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:11:28

early

Paul Ferry

72 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:12:29

Remember when we burnt the white house down Jamie .

Jamie Crowley

73 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:13:37

Paul –

Good times, good times. Remember when we hid behind trees and picked you fine men off winning independence?

Three crunching tackles in a row. About time let’s goooo!

Paul Ferry

74 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:14:47

Lovely stuff John Stones but look at those swarming Milanese.

James Marshall

75 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:15:36

An ex girlfriend of mine once asked me why its called the white house. Just one of many reasons she’s an ex.

James Marshall

76 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:15:58

Big Rom!

Paul Ferry

77 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:16:11

and how many other countries and native tribes JC in The War of Eternal Ingratitude . Lu coming on.

Jeff Armstrong

78 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:16:14

I know Paul, I was a kid of 7 when we won the league in 70, by 1984 I was a working adult, it was a lifetime between trophies, how people who are now in their thirties cope with the last trophy in 95, I just do not know.
Come on Rom!!!

Jamie Crowley

79 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:16:36

ROM! Find the back of the net Romelu!

Michael Kenrick

80 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:16:41

The Big Man!

Paul Ferry

81 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:17:25

Agree Jeff, we’re the same vintage mate.

Jamie Crowley

82 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:18:34

WTF you doing??? Feed Lukaku you idiot!

Joe McMahon

83 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:18:37

Just looking at the benches of both teams, sigh. To think we had Stones and Lukaku in the same team, now look at us.

Jeff Armstrong

84 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:20:45

Joe#83, and Barkley, which one will we be linked with this summer?😉

Paul Ferry

85 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:22:37

FEED THE YAK .

Jamie Crowley

86 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:23:00

AND HE WILL SCORE!

Paul Ferry

87 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:23:40

Joe is still playing.

Paul Ferry

88 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:24:08

Stones has been the best city player so far.

Jeff Armstrong

89 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:24:21

We also had Delefeou that season, so many attacking options, pity Martinez forgot about the other side of the game,… defending,
which is criminal from a Premier league manager.

Jamie Crowley

90 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:26:08

Jeff –

Best team and season in my small Blue life since 2007. Loved that squad.

Joe McMahon

91 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:27:25

Paul, Ross Barkley, christ I forgot he existed.

Mark Murphy

92 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:27:54

Ffs Ferry – 84 was glorious!!Why do you want to pour vinegar on our memories?? What do you get from that?

Jeff Armstrong

93 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:28:01

Fuck

James Marshall

94 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:28:07

You’re not stopping that!

Jamie Crowley

95 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:28:17

Boom

Paul Ferry

96 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:28:19

Great finish, fantastic

Michael Kenrick

97 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:28:22

Ooo… GOAL!

Dale Self

98 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:28:36

Rodri. Who probably deserves it most. City!

Jamie Crowley

99 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:29:17

Fantastic shot / finish.

James Marshall

100 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:29:31

Inter will have to come out and play now. This should be a better watch

Jeff Armstrong

101 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:30:25

City “ fans “ not even celebrating, ridiculous, even the fans are feikch

Will Mabon

102 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:30:30

Nicely placed.

Jamie Crowley

103 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:30:47

OMG Fat Rom materializes and stops a goal.

Dale Self

104 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:31:13

Good defence Lukaku

Jamie Crowley

105 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:32:27

Rom went downhill when he started eating burgers.

Will Mabon

106 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:32:30

Keystone Cops.

Jamie Crowley

107 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:33:18

If Rom scores the Crowley house will blow up

Paul Ferry

108 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:34:51

Yawn, Mark Murphy, read irony lad and the humdrum opinion of one of the worst live finals ever. I was there for everything in that wondrous time so don’t talk to me about vinegar. Those, on the other hand, who were bleating we’re down we’re down in January, including your Horsham pilon rider are indeed vinegar.

Paul Ferry

109 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:36:02

I thought James Flynn said that Walker was injured.

Will Mabon

110 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:36:23

Hate that conducting the crowd shit.

Jeff Armstrong

111 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:37:10

Is it me or does this game feel a bit staged. Are Inter involved with Oil ?

Mark Murphy

112 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:37:14

With the greatest of respect do one Ferry. Your tiresome.

Will Mabon

113 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:37:19

Paul, needed another hour to recover.

Jamie Crowley

114 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:37:44

Holy shit what a turn by Foden. Wow

Paul Ferry

115 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:37:51

Superb by Foden and the keeper.

Dale Self

116 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:37:53

That move deserved a goal.

Paul Ferry

117 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:39:16

It did Dale.

Jeff Armstrong

118 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:41:15

To me this game feels over as soon as that goal went in, Inter have given up..staged game this.

Jamie Crowley

119 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:42:34

Stones off? Get he was down but he’s been good… weird that for me.

Jeff Armstrong

120 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:42:51

Kyle Walker oggie, come on…

Paul Ferry

121 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:43:15

Agree Jamie.

Jamie Crowley

122 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:44:18

Hahaha. If Walker OGs I’ll laugh my ass off.

Jeff Armstrong

123 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:45:20

Pep at it again, Stones best player on the pitch, “ Im a genius, take him off”. Fucking why??.

Will Mabon

124 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:45:33

Took one in the winky.

Paul Ferry

125 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:46:09

Martines, pass to Martinez

Paul Ferry

126 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:46:40

He was Jeff.

Paul Ferry

127 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:48:33

OMG

Jamie Crowley

128 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:48:39

Ohhhh Rom! OMG so close!

Dale Self

129 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:48:47

womp womp

James Marshall

130 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:48:55

Lukaku sitter, that’s criminal

Paul Ferry

131 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:49:22

Feck Lu

Jeff Armstrong

132 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:49:34

Ffs Rom

Michael Kenrick

133 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:49:55

Lukaku misses a doozzie!

Paul Ferry

134 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:50:15

So selfish Lukaku.

Jeff Armstrong

135 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:52:00

What a shit final..again

Jamie Crowley

136 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:52:57

Big set piece here…

Jamie Crowley

137 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:53:43

Is it me or does Pep adore all the attention?

Paul Ferry

138 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:54:01

Greatest ever season by an English club ever.

Jeff Armstrong

139 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:56:03

Game over, again..a race has now become a parade, just like the Premier league.

Jamie Crowley

140 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:56:08

Finally over the hump. Jeez man League, FA Cup, and Champions League.

Paul Ferry

141 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:56:26

Ederson, Jesus Christ

Dale Self

142 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:56:36

Alright then. City!

Paul Ferry

143 Posted
10/06/2023 at
21:57:42

Ederson wins European Cup.

Will Mabon

144 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:00:28

Not as good as Brighton v Everton.

James Marshall

145 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:00:49

They’re the best team in Europe so for that they deserve to win it.

Jeff Armstrong

146 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:02:30

Fuck off, City, oil bought that and all your other corrupt trophies, oil, oil, oil – no skill in throwing billions at a squad until you eventually get it right, no skill at all. Frauds.

Paul Ferry

147 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:02:36

In a nutshell, James, like us in 1985-86. Did Rodri say ‘shit’ then?

Paul Ferry

148 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:03:36

Could have been our oil Jeff, apparently.

Jeff Armstrong

149 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:05:01

Underwhelming, even Grealish is not particularly arsed.

Will Mabon

150 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:06:10

Oh well – the next “Game” is the transfer window. Goodnight All.

Paul Ferry

151 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:06:11

I like Grearlish as much as I dislike his hanger on Micah,

Paul Ferry

152 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:06:58

Harsh Jeff, emotional is the word mate.

Jeff Armstrong

153 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:07:13

I’d definitely have a different perspective there PF, but it didn’t happen, and these cunts annoy me no end.

Mark Murphy

154 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:07:49

Okay, so wrong thread, but that’s over with now. Martin Mason and I are Blues. We go the game. We cheer on the team during the game.

We have different opinions on the style, manager and board. But we’ve followed the Blues for over 50 years each. And the Blues come first.

Anyone who wants to take opposite views are totally entitled to do so. But don’t get snide. That just makes you look like a cunt.

UTFT!

Paul Ferry

155 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:09:20

You’re blue through and through Jeff and like me you remember how shite city were not in the 90’s but the 80’s.

James Flynn

156 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:09:24

Congrats to City. The best team around, won.

Jeff Armstrong

157 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:10:02

They enjoyed winning the FA Cup last week more.

Brent Stephens

158 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:10:25

I’ve met Mark and Martin on the away game trail and found them both good guys. True blues.

Paul Ferry

159 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:13:34

Good night Mark but before you hit zzzzz check what ‘snide’ means and check yours, from me, who saw my first game at Goodison in 1967 aged 2, 56 years

You certainly brought the quality of this thread down.

Have a nice summer.

Neil Copeland

160 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:14:09

Brent #158, agreed

Jeff Armstrong

161 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:15:59

Paul, I think we’ve both seen the game at its best in the ’70s and ’80s, likewise people like Dave Abrahams and John Mcfarlane and many others on here in the decades before.

Even if we got taken over by Saudi oil and became successful again, it wouldn’t be the same; the game now is tainted and our success in the eighties was pure.

Paul Ferry

162 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:16:11

Some of us don’t use four-letter-words to other blues, Brent. But that was his groundless choice.

Paul Ferry

163 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:16:55

Totally agree, Jeff.

Brent Stephens

164 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:18:26

Paul, I didn’t follow the preceeding thread (tuned in late at final whistle) so wasn’t aware of what the issue might be.

Just confirming the true blue credentials of those two. And your true blue credentials are in no doubt either, Paul.

Robert Tressell

165 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:20:05

Inter didn’t half defend well and in the end Ederson won it for City.

I thought Stones was excellent. Haaland barely got a kick. Inter had him completely worked out.

Paul Ferry

166 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:20:21

And you, Brent, are a Blue for the ages. Hope your wife is a little better.

Paul Ferry

167 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:21:07

Stones was their best player, Robert.

Brent Stephens

168 Posted
10/06/2023 at
22:27:19

Paul #166, thanks for that, mate.

Matt Byrne

169 Posted
10/06/2023 at
23:08:48

I didn’t watch it. I’m not bothered though I’m pleased for their genuine pre-money fans.

I don’t mind Man City. They’ve certainly denied Liverpool a few titles in recent years. In 1999, they were playing Northampton, Colchester, Walsall and Lincoln. To think their owners may have been turned away from Goodison by good-times Bill…

I preferred footy when I was a kid when the likes of Nottingham Forest and Ipswich Town could rule in Europe through managerial skill – not a cheque book hoovering up all the best talent.

I’m sure Pep is a great manager. Good luck to him. However, I would love to see an experiment where he was given a big club who have had hard times, like Sunderland or Sheffield Wednesday, to see if managerial skill alone can get you to the top the way Bobby Robson or Brian Clough did. I think he’d struggle these days.

Brian Williams

170 Posted
10/06/2023 at
23:20:42

Well done, Man City. Fully deserved.

And for those who can’t find it within themselves to be happy for them, be less bitter. 😉

Don Alexander

172 Posted
10/06/2023 at
23:23:53

Didn’t watch or listen to it.

A team comprising endless money beat a team with nowhere that money, that money being supplied as it is by a country where human rights are ignored in favour of torture and corruption.

I wanna thank our Michael (#10) though on creating an entire thread about teams and a competition that have no relevance at all to Everton before going on to lambast anyone who mentions THEM – them also having no relevance to us.

Some people say irony is dead in America but well done to those who so gloriously show it isn’t!

Jeff Armstrong

173 Posted
10/06/2023 at
23:31:45

Well done City, fully deserved, youve spent 10 years spending countless billions to get to tonight, how does it feel?

Empty?

Bought?

Unbecoming ?

Bizzare that people think you deserve it?

Yes all of those things.

Paul Ferry

174 Posted
10/06/2023 at
23:40:03

Don, I don’t think that MK lives in the land of the free any more.

I don’t understand why you are so sour. Big game, no relevance directly to us, I agree, but an opportunity for some free and easy banter, a large part of which was in fact about us.

Have a nice summer Don!

Chris Hockenhull

175 Posted
10/06/2023 at
23:45:49

173…. If I was a City fan reading that… Id say F and bollocks… I dont give a shit what your questions are. And Id expect them, rightly so.. to say something on the lines of “ Oh.. youve spent your millions.. to get what… nearly relegated twice in two years?” Ive no problem them winning tonight

John McFarlane Snr

176 Posted
10/06/2023 at
23:51:04

Hi Jeff, [161] I’m afraid that I am programmed to make my way to Goodison Park whenever Everton are playing. I think that if I had a semblance of intelligence, I would turn away from football as it is today, but old habits die hard, and the standards both on and off the field could be classed as corrupt. Referees are ordered to turn a contact sport into a non-contact sport, leading to players writhing on the ground in agony, following what we used to praise as a good solid tackle. As I remarked at the start of this post I’m too far gone to walk away from the ” Beautiful Game” ?

Jeff Armstrong

177 Posted
10/06/2023 at
23:54:51

175, yes but Im bitter.
City, spent, bought, spent and then bought again no comparison to what we have done.
They have bought and ruined the EPL and are doing the very same in Europe.
The race has now become a parade.

Chris Hockenhull

178 Posted
11/06/2023 at
00:15:55

Jeff Armstrong.., Im sort but you invested all sorts of conspiracies.. innuendo..,any much more than a football match deserved. But Id love to know your opinions on Dallas ‘63 as you have a burning passion for issues you dont believe in but convince yourself of deeper issues! The day of despair ( for you) is nearly over.. and sorry to say.., when you wake up tomorrow.. the back ( and front) pages will tell you your living nightmare about this really happened. As Neil Young sang.. “Dont Be Denied “. Regards. Chris

Bill Gall

179 Posted
10/06/2023 at
00:17:21

When are referees going to get the balls and stop the wrestling from corners, and start giving penalties. watching that game I thought if they were Everton players we would have had at least 3 yellows and a red, The whole game is getting so corrupt that rules are for amateurs, especially officials. the game is now they shall not pass either fair or foul will do. How can you teach kids, when hooliganism is the expected norm.

Kieran Kinsella

180 Posted
11/06/2023 at
00:33:06

Jeff,

I lived within listening distance of Maine Road in the ’90s when their long-suffering fans only saw enjoyment at that stadium during the Oasis gig so I don’t begrudge their fans.

But yes, football is becoming increasingly boring due to lack of competition in England, France, and Germany. Italy has been saved because Juventus can’t seem to keep themselves out of trouble. But no doubt they’ll be back on top soon.

Don Alexander

181 Posted
11/06/2023 at
01:12:42

Paul (#174),

I suppose I might come across as sour but there’s more than a few who speak of the way football is run in the same way I do, namely that it’s fundamentally corrupt.

And my comment to Michael K was intended as a compliment. A sense of irony is evidence of a sound mind to me.

Pete Clarke

182 Posted
11/06/2023 at
03:20:32

If you look deep into the way finances and greed have taken over football, it would give us all very good reason to walk away. I know a few who walked away once ticket prices started doubling in the early ’80s.

We were as guilty as anybody for splashing out in the ’60s and ’70s and what we have done in the last few years is beyond a joke. It’s not a joke to say that all of this money being thrown about and yet there’s people dying of starvation. What a horrible twisted world we live in!

But hey, we’re all hooked on this sport and we will continue to watch the super-rich throw money around like confetti, corrupt ownership take control of their new toys, super-rich football players picking up more in one week than most of us pick up in one year, and at the same time displaying all the behaviour of cheats and cowards.

Good luck to Mn City. It doesn’t seem that long sgo they were in free fall in the lower leagues. They got lucky with a stadium, the takeover and Guardiola. It can be great to watch but most of the time it’s boring so I’ll stick to my suffering of being a blue and hope something magical happens and we win a trophy soon.

Kieran Kinsella

183 Posted
11/06/2023 at
04:04:12

Matt Traynor

184 Posted
11/06/2023 at
04:50:25

Under Sir John’s stewardship, we spent wisely – he provided guarantees but didn’t use his own wealth, rightly believing the club should be sustainable, and still deliver on the pitch. For him, it was all about the working-class masses that packed Goodison. He employed a few, and many more of their wives. “Mersey Millionaires” was a lazy Fleet Street stereotype. He was ruthless, and we were better for it.

I had the pleasure of meeting him in the late 80s when I worked at Goodison. Just a silver service waiter, who every other Saturday got on the 0530 train to get back. He still found the time to talk to me, by then wheelchair bound. Although his health was on the wane, it was clear to this then-starstruck teenager he was sharp as a button. Ruthless but with an empathy for the common man I’ve yet to ever see again.

He was a Titan. Our current and hopefully soon-not-to-be Chairman is a Tit. Not worthy of the title.

Steve Brown

185 Posted
11/06/2023 at
06:14:26

Chelsea and Maan City were able to lay the foundations with massive spending before the Premier League brought in financial regulations. They have frozen the current status quo.

There will never be a level playing field until those rules are changed. I am surprised no clubs have challenged their legality in court as they are anti-competition.

Geoff Lambert

186 Posted
11/06/2023 at
06:50:20

Steve Brown! In a nutshell mate.

Colin Glassar

187 Posted
11/06/2023 at
07:00:45

Sickening fact: Julian Alvarez (Man City), who has just won the World Cup and a record-equalling treble, cost less (or the same) as Maupay.

Our “scouting team”, like our academy, needs to be torn down, ripped apart, demolished as it’s not fit for purpose.

Danny O’Neill

188 Posted
11/06/2023 at
07:12:10

We are all too far gone to walk away, John Senior.

Not a great match and a pretty cagey affair. Great save by City’s keeper from Lukaku. Or should the striker have put more of an angle on it?

Either way, I’m pleased for them and they deserve it. Best team in Europe and the planet right now.

I have friends who have been lifelong Man City fans. From the Kippax to the Eithad. Gillingham at Wembley to dramatically escaping from the 3rd tier of English football. To Istanbul last night. It’s been a long, often painful journey for them. But their supporters have been rewarded.

Change at the top, investment, a new stadium, a vision and a strategy. It shows you what can happen.

My son pointed me to a documentary about Heysel yesterday. I wish he hadn’t, as I will now have to watch it, which will trigger me and my thoughts of what could and should have been. They may call us bitter, they claim abuse when called victims. But they gloss over that tragic event and ignore it. If they don’t talk about it, it never happened. Airbrushed from their history.

Apologies. What they done to English football that night, which impacted Everton more than any other club, won’t leave me. Denied us of our opportunity. And that team could have gone all the way.

See also Gentleman Murray Moyle, age 95

Back on topic. Congratulations to Manchester City. A model for what can be achieved if managed correctly from the top down. Who’d have thought it in 1999?

Dave Abrahams

189 Posted
11/06/2023 at
09:03:11

John (176), I couldn’t disagree with anything in that post.

We are watching an entirely different game than the one we watched all those years ago, played with different rules that are changed every season with even some referees not knowing what they are or turning a blind eye to them one week then applying them the next week.

I love football, always will, and yes, Man City are a very good team and good luck to them, but will always be tainted with the ugly money they have used.

They face 115 charges of breaking the rules but the media make much more of the one charge we face, the media is as bad as the false football we watch today.

Brian Williams

190 Posted
11/06/2023 at
09:11:11

Well said, Danny, you’ve saved me a post. I echo everything you’ve written, and I mean everything!

Ray Robinson

191 Posted
11/06/2023 at
09:27:55

On the one hand, Im glad for City as they are clearly the best team in the world and deserve to win the Champions League. On the other hand, whilst appreciating the superb technicality of their football, I often find their football soulless. Watching Silva, Grealish and Foden beating players down the wing and then playing the ball backwards into midfield sort of leaves me cold. Yes, they retain possession but at the cost of individuality. Only de Bruyne seems to retain the permission (?) to try something different. Guardiola has maximised the collective at the expense of spontaneity. Its the way football is going – being reduced to a chess game.

After 62 years following the Blues, Im too hooked to lose interest and I would like Everton to adopt some of the abilities of City – namely better ball retention but the game cannot be allowed to lose its jeopardy. I hope City win nothing next year!

Danny O’Neill

192 Posted
11/06/2023 at
09:34:23

Interesting point Ray.

They play a patient game and wait for the moment.

Sideways, backwards. Things that frustrate a lot of Everton supporters.

The difference is that when they change the gears, they go forward with intent.

Game management of the highest order. But they have the players to do it.

We have been trying to do similar but don’t have options.

On a separate note, is it me or did that goal last night resemble Doucoure’s even more spectacular one against Bournemouth?

Barry Rathbone

193 Posted
11/06/2023 at
09:40:18

Just watched the highlights and absolutely delighted.

Anything pushing our gruesome neighbours further into the background is fine by me.

On a less bitter note what I like about City is all their players have mastery of the ball the passes leading to the goal were inventive and laser accurate and the finish a work of art. They really are a Barca Mk 2.

Not interested in the background finances you can’t go backwards in life it is up to the rest to find their own way. And, yes, generally speaking modern football is a heap of shite for a lot of us older deadbeats but the younger generations love it.

The message is get a sheikh or remain destined for the lower leagues.

Well done City

Brian Williams

194 Posted
11/06/2023 at
09:41:11

I’ll be honest, watching City this season, and I’ve actively sought to watch every game of theirs I could, has saved me!

When I take my seat every other week in the top balcony and suffer what we’ve all had to suffer, this season especially, I go home feeling depressed, angry, and upset. If we’ve played on a Saturday my weekend’s generally ruined. I avoid getting involved in footy related discussions, especially with any of the gobshites from across the park.

Then, when able to watch, I’ve sat and watched City, in the comfort of my own home, and actually really enjoyed (remember that feeling?) watching a football match.

When I’ve watched KDB make a slide rule 30 yard pass to put the boy/beast through on goal I can’t help but admire and enjoy the skill.

When they score and the camera goes to the crowd and I see working class people like me jumping around in sheer joy I have a wry smile on my face.

I’m happy for them. I know how that feels because I was lucky enough to see us through the 70’s and 80’s.

KDB and his team mates aren’t guilty of anything, as far as I know so when that whistles blows and I watch some of the stunning football the play I really enjoy it.

That’s why we watch football isn’t it ? That’s what we want to see isn’t it?

Football gives us a chance (well it fucking used to with Everton) to escape every day life, to live our dreams through our heroes, to feel a real comradeship (Danny you’ll know exactly what I mean) with those around us. It can be shit (and has been for us for a long time) but sometimes it can be wonderful.

You need to be able to separate the noise of underhandedness, park the cynicism and righteousness and enjoy (especially when watching City) poetry in motion at times.

Life aint fair. Never was, never will be. We all partake in some small way or other in exploitation of somebody else. Look hard enough and you’ll find that’s true. We don’t mean to but it happens when we use or buy lots of things.

But with regard to not being able to be happy for City and their supporters?

Try! Try to be happy for the lad in the stands who’s living his dream. Enjoy that slide rule pass because we’d love one of ours to make it.

Try to take some enjoyment out of life, for a fleeting time, for fuck’s sake because all too soon we’ll all be dead!

Danny Baily

195 Posted
11/06/2023 at
09:50:41

There’ll be an asterisk next to these achievements soon enough.

Besides, West Ham’s triumph midweek was a far more compelling story.

Brian Harrison

196 Posted
11/06/2023 at
10:01:38

I was pleased that City won, even though it was probably their worst performance for many months, but that’s always likely to happen when you have competed for so much in one season. I am also pleased for the City fans who have watched them prior to dropping to the third tier of English football, and no doubt could never have imagined what change would come about thanks to their takeover by Abu Dhabi nationals.

Whether we agree with how nation states are now taking over our game, the quality that this City team have is a joy to watch, well maybe not when they are playing us. Obviously their failure to win a Champions league Cup was beginning to be a curse round their necks but that now has been put to bed.

I have to admit I thought when Usmanov/Moshiri took over we might be able to look forward to competing for a Champions league place and could we even dream of getting back to winning trophies. But it for many reasons didnt happen and now we are in a no better place than when they took over. I suppose the only benefit is they did manage to build a new stadium.

Danny O’Neill

197 Posted
11/06/2023 at
10:08:44

Brian @194, Kevin De Bruyne is probably the player I like watching the most right now if I take my Everton cap off.

I used to like watching Paul Scholes, even though he was shocking at tackling.

In terms of Kevins, you know there is only one and you know who it is.

Brian Williams

198 Posted
11/06/2023 at
10:11:36

I do mate, and I have a signed photo of him with best wishes just to me !! ;-)) (Sorry).

Brian Harrison

199 Posted
11/06/2023 at
10:20:19

Danny 197

I think you really need to park the bus with your obsession with Kevin Kilbane,
as I guess it couldnt be the 1 good game in 5 Kevin Sheedy, haha. I will put my tin hat on before reading your reply.

Brian Williams

200 Posted
11/06/2023 at
10:24:32

Brian, too late he’s on his way to yours right now. Let the Mrs answer the door!!

John Williams

201 Posted
11/06/2023 at
10:24:59

Please explain in less than 200 words, the difference in money
coming from drilling more oil to fund you football club, or taking
dirty Russian Mafia money, in an attempt, to get you to the same position ?
Answers, on a postcard or a sealed down envelope.

Paul Ferry

202 Posted
11/06/2023 at
10:31:12

Sorry for the misunderstandings Don.

Brian Harrison

203 Posted
11/06/2023 at
11:21:28

Brian 200,

I hope he hasn’t got the dogs with him otherwise I could be featuring on the news tonight. Do you think I could placate him with a drop of the hard stuff?

Brian Williams

204 Posted
11/06/2023 at
11:28:15

Brian. I think that would work a treat mate!

Alan McGuffog

205 Posted
11/06/2023 at
11:53:24

Ray…watching Foden and the like beat men out wide and then play the ball backwards is soulless.

How do you view a side that, with three or four accurate passes, can get the ball back to the keeper from a corner at the other end? 🤔

Christy Ring

206 Posted
11/06/2023 at
12:11:54

Everyone talks about City’s De Bruyne, but for me Rodri is irreplaceable.

Lukaku looked about 5 stone overweight. I see where Carson got his 2nd Champions League medal from the bench again.

Chris Hockenhull

207 Posted
11/06/2023 at
12:22:25

Brian (194),

One of the most truest and sensible posts I’ve read for a long long time.

Dave Abrahams

208 Posted
11/06/2023 at
12:48:34

Brian (194), yes I think a good proportion of fans like watching City, I do and but what pleased me more than Citys ability to entertain was when they were outplayed by Brentford at Citys ground early in the season and the 1-2 score line didnt reflect how superior Brentford were that day, a little well run club and financially not on the same planet as the champions and they beat them again at the end of the season, admittedly when City already had the league in the bag.

Id get more pleasure if Everton could do what Brentford or Brighton have done with their clubs, built them up from the lower leagues spending little but finding gems and getting the clubs financially sound by selling them on, finding cheaper replacements but more importantly keeping their fans happy by playing attractive attacking football, then again they have a lot more sensible people running their clubs than we have had for a very long time.

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